FLATSIXES.com https://flatsixes.com The blog about Porsche Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:59:16 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 We interview the people that are driving the Porsche culture today. Drivers, builders, collectors and everyday Porsche owners all come here to tell their story. FLATSIXES: Porsche Podcaster, Owners and Enthusiasts clean episodic FLATSIXES: Porsche Podcaster, Owners and Enthusiasts podcast@flatsixes.com podcast@flatsixes.com (FLATSIXES: Porsche Podcaster, Owners and Enthusiasts) ©FLATSIXES.com Porsche Cars, People, Products and Lifestyle. http://users.feedblitz.com/0afb3761d26dbe53161b70d6a36660a5/Porsche_Logov2.png FLATSIXES.com https://flatsixes.com https://flatsixes.com/cars/911-gt2gt3gt3-rs/porsches-gt2-rs-is-faster-better-and-easier-to-drive-than-the-gt1/ Porsche’s GT2 RS Is Faster, Better, And Easier To Drive Than The GT1 https://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/575408690/0/flatsixes~Porsches-GT-RS-Is-Faster-Better-And-Easier-To-Drive-Than-The-GT/ https://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/575408690/0/flatsixes~Porsches-GT-RS-Is-Faster-Better-And-Easier-To-Drive-Than-The-GT/#respond Thu, 18 Oct 2018 17:59:16 +0000 https://flatsixes.com/?p=59767 ]]>Back in the 1990s, Porsche's limited edition homologation special GT1 Strassenversion was the king of the hypercar heap. With a 536 horsepower turbocharged flat six, the GT1 was about as crazy as cars got twenty years ago. With a mid-engine layout and a curb weight of just 2535 pounds, it was an analog outlaw, almost…

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Back in the 1990s, Porsche's limited edition homologation special GT1 Strassenversion was the king of the hypercar heap. With a 536 horsepower turbocharged flat six, the GT1 was about as crazy as cars got twenty years ago. With a mid-engine layout and a curb weight of just 2535 pounds, it was an analog outlaw, almost impossible to drive quickly, and capable of insane 3.9-second 0-60 runs. In those days it was seen as an impossibly advanced race car for the road. Today, those numbers are barely worth mentioning. The new GT2 RS can beat all of the performance stats of the GT1, including top speed, without breaking a sweat, and all while maintaining a traditional rear-engine 911 chassis and weighing significantly more. Of course it's aided by 700 horsepower and tires as wide as my torso.

Technology has come a long way in twenty years, whether it be reliable engine tech, turbocharger tech, or tire tech, each has contributed to the 991 GT2 RS' ability to absolutely stomp the competition. Not only is it faster around the race track than almost any other current production car, it's also about as linear and tractable as you can expect from a street car. It's easy to drive, and it's relatively easy to drive quickly. Compliant and forgiving has never really been the 911 motto, but the 991's crazy tech advancements have made that a possibility.

Henry Catchpole of Carfection closes his monologue with "If you want the biggest 911 adrenaline hit out there, this is it." That is an incredible show of endorsement if ever there were one. The guy really knows his stuff, and if he likes it, it's probably pretty good. For the full rundown of Catchpole's experience with the car, check out the full video below. It's well worth watching.

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Porsche is adding a pair of new sporty Panamera models to its lineup in the form of the Panamera GTS and the Panamera GTS Sport Turismo. Positioned between the Panamera 4S and Panamera Turbo models, the GTS is a back-to-basics sport model with 453 horsepower and 457 lb-ft of torque. That accounts for an increase of 13 horsepower and a massive 73 lb-ft over the old naturally-aspirated GTS models of the last generation Panamera. The new model also tacks on all-wheel drive in the GTS trim. With that added all-wheel grip, the Panamera GTS, whether sedan or wagon, accelerates from zero to sixty in 3.9 seconds. The sedan will hit a top speed of 181 miles per hour, while the Sport Turismo is limited to 179.

Porsche's GTS trim models stack on a huge list of standard equipment and driver aids. In this case, the suspension is now 10mm lower than any other Panamera models, though it uses the same air suspension, just calibrated differently. The PASM dampers are also given a more sport oriented operating curve. The brakes have also been enlarged to 390mm in the front and 365mm in the rear, to provide excellent on-track braking.

As with all other recent GTS models, the package on this Panamera is heavy on blacked out trim and Alcantara interior. A sport exhaust with black tailpipes matches black headlamp surrounds and black window trim. Porsche calls this an "athletic" look. Inside, you'll get a sport steering wheel in Alcantara, and the optional GTS Interior Package will add contrast elements of the exterior color (either Chalk or Carmine Red) to the stitching, GTS logos, and tachometer face. Porsche also announced that Panamera models will now be available with an optional heads-up display from now on, and it's not just for GTS models either.

The new Panamera GTS models are available to order now. In the United States, the Panamera GTS carries a starting MSRP of $128,300; the Panamera GTS Sport Turismo is available with a starting MSRP of $134,500. Both prices exclude $1,050 for delivery, processing and handling and are expected to arrive in U.S. dealerships in the second half of 2019.

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https://flatsixes.com/porsche-motorsports/world-endurance-challenge/porsches-results-and-pictures-from-the-6-hours-of-fuji/ Porsche’s Results And Pictures From The 6 Hours Of Fuji https://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/575085934/0/flatsixes~Porsches-Results-And-Pictures-From-The-Hours-Of-Fuji/ https://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/575085934/0/flatsixes~Porsches-Results-And-Pictures-From-The-Hours-Of-Fuji/#respond Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:18:02 +0000 https://flatsixes.com/?p=59747 ]]>While Porsche was busy wrapping up the IMSA season with a victory at Petit Le Mans, halfway across the world the German sports car maker was similarly sucessful with a double-class victory at the FIA WEC 6 Hours of Fuji round in Japan. With factory-prepped racers in the GTE-Pro class coming home first and fifth,…

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While Porsche was busy wrapping up the IMSA season with a victory at Petit Le Mans, halfway across the world the German sports car maker was similarly sucessful with a double-class victory at the FIA WEC 6 Hours of Fuji round in Japan. With factory-prepped racers in the GTE-Pro class coming home first and fifth, while independent teams racing in GTE-Am raced to a 1-2 finish, Porsche had a really good weekend on the race track. It's a weekend that Porsche racers will remember for a long time, surely.

In the GTE-Pro class it was the duo of Kevin Estre and Michael Christensen crossing the finish line in front of a long line of factory-supported GT racers. The race began with a drizzle and a few laps under the safety car while a racing line slowly formed. Their Porsche was among the first to switch to slick racing tires from rain tires, and it benefited them greatly as they sliced through the field. With some clever pit stop strategy and some stellar driving, the team put Christensen in a position to sweep into the lead with about 90 minutes remaining in the 6-hour race. Kevin Estre managed his tires perfectly across the final stint to maintain the lead to the end and take the class win.

The sister car of Richard Lietz and Gianmaria Bruni didn't fare quite as well. They had a bit of poor luck with a long pit stop, and their tires fell off well before the finish, costing them serious time on circuit. Ultimately, they finished in 5th position, scoring valuable points for the teams championship of the Super Season, which runs through next June. Porsche currently leads the team and driver championship points standings in GTE-Pro.

In GTE-Am the Project 1 team with Joerg Bergmeister, Patrick Lindsey, and Egidio Perfetti, a new team for this season, took their maiden victory with some stellar driving and excellent strategy, plus a bit of luck. In second place was the Dempsey Proton Racing car of Matteo Cairoli, Satoshi Hoshino, and Giorgio Roda.

Comments on the race

Alexander Stehlig (Program Manager Factory GT Motorsports):

“After the disappointment with the qualifying results, today was a great day. It was a hugely successful weekend for Porsche with the victory at Petit Le Mans in the USA and the two successes here at Fuji in the Pro and Am categories. We almost always made the right decisions during the race and the car was good and fast. The number 92 car drove a flawless race, our number 91 unfortunately had problems during the pit stop. On top of that, the balance wasn’t great in the last stint. But all in all, we’re very satisfied.”

Kévin Estre (Porsche 911 RSR #92):

“I’m incredibly happy about our victory. Our setup was simply fantastic and the good braking performance was an important aspect of our success at Fuji. After we changed to slicks during the safety car phase early on in the race, our car setup allowed us to brake later than the others and thus gain positions. Our pit stop strategy also ran perfectly.”

Richard Lietz (Porsche 911 RSR #91):

“First and foremost I’d like to congratulate the winners in the GTE Pro and Am categories here and of course at the Petit Le Mans in the USA. That was a great weekend for Porsche, but unfortunately not for our car. We had several problems, which we now need to analyse and of course fix. There was certainly nothing wrong with the performance of the drivers or the speed of the 911 RSR. We’ll come back stronger in Shanghai.”

Jörg Bergmeister (Porsche 911 RSR #56):

“At first the race ran like the entire weekend: Not so satisfactorily. We had contact, a spin and had to change the door. But midway through the race the tide turned in our favour and we brought home a pleasing victory. It’s the first WEC win for me and also for Project 1. That’s a great step for us in terms of collecting points. We’re all happy with this and it’s going in the right direction.”

Julien Andlauer (Porsche 911 RSR #77):

“The race started well and we were fast. Then a technical problem brought us into the pits, unfortunately. I could only rejoin the race 25 laps later. The car then felt good again, the balance and the speed were excellent. It’s a pity because no one made a mistake, it was the technology that hampered us. There’s nothing you can do about that. I think we could have won, but that’s racing.”

Race result
GTE-Pro class
1. Christensen/Estre (DK/F), Porsche 911 RSR, 207 laps
2. Blomquist/da Costa (S/P), BMW M8 GTE, 207 laps
3. Priaulx/Tincknell (GB/GB), Ford GT, 207 laps
4. Pier Guidi/Calado (I/GB), Ferrari 488 GTE EVO, 207 laps
5. Lietz/Bruni (A/I), Porsche 911 RSR, 207 laps
6. Mücke/Pla (D/F), Ford GT, 206 laps
7. Sorensen/Thiim (DK/DK), Aston Martin Vantage GTE, 206 laps
8. Tomczyk/Catsburg (D/NL), BMW M8 GTE, 206 laps
9. Lynn/Martin (GB/B), Aston Martin Vantage GTE, 206 laps
10. Rigon/Bird (I/GB), Ferrari 488 GTE EVO, 202 laps

GTE-Am class
1. Bergmeister/Lindsey/Perfetti (D/USA/N), Porsche 911 RSR, 201 laps
2. Hoshino/Roda/Cairoli (J/I/I), Porsche 911 RSR, 201 laps
3. Yoluc/Adam/Eastwood (TR/GB/GB), Aston Martin Vantage GTE, 201 laps
4. Dalla Lana/Lamy/Lauda (CDN/P/A), Aston Martin Vantage GTE, 201 laps
5. Wainwright/Barker/Preining (GB/GB/A), Porsche 911 RSR, 201 laps
6. Flohr/Castellacci/Fisichella (CH/I/I), Ferrari 488 GTE, 200 laps
7. Mok/Sawa/Griffin (MAL/J/IRL), Ferrari 488 GTE, 200 laps
8. Ried/Andlauer/Campbell (D/F/AUS), Porsche 911 RSR, 176 laps
9. Ishikawa/Beretta/Cheever (J/MC/I), Ferrari 488 GTE, 14 laps

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This weekend marked the final round of the IMSA Weathertech SportsCar Championship at Road Atlanta's famed Petit Le Mans. The ten-hour race in northern Georgia was bound to be a tough one from the start, but Porsche was more than ready for the challenge. The mid-engine 911 RSR competitors donned a throwback livery in the form of 1998's Le Mans-winning 911 GT1 with Mobil oils white, blue, and red. Both cars looked spectacular as the green flag flew, and they were both incredibly quick. The team ran a largely flawless race, and managed to take the victory they so desperately wanted, their third win of the season.

The #911 car was the one to cross the finish line first in the GTLM class, having run into almost no issues all race long. This is the age-old Porsche strategy of running consistently quick lap times while staying out of the pits as much as possible to place higher. It worked at Le Mans, and it worked at Petit Le Mans. Patrick Pilet, Nick Tandy, and Fred Mako put in an incredible effort to win over the competitive GTLM field with BMW, Ferrari, Ford, and Corvette doing everything they can to win themselves. With about three hours remaining on the race clock, Mako moved the #911 into the lead of the class, and maintained that lead through his stint. He then handed off to Tandy, who brought the car home in the lead with a margin of over 11 seconds.

Meanwhile, the #912 team car of Earl Bamber, Laurens Vanthoor, and Mathieu Jaminet spent much of the opening few stints at the front of the pack as well, despite having slowed for a punctured tire early on in the endurance race. A mistake, which incurred a drive-through penalty, cost the team any shot, however. Losing that time in the pits was too insurmountable to make back up, and they ultimately finished down in 6th, one minute behind the winning sister car.

In GTD, Porsche's Wright Motorsports team suffered similar to the #912, having run up front early, but falling out with a drive-through penalty. Patrick Long, Christina Nielsen, and Robert Renauer put in as strong a drive as a trio can, but could do no better than just off the podium in fourth, one lap down. Meanwhile, the Park Place Motorsports car retired before the end of the race.

Comments on the race

Dr Frank-Steffen Walliser (Vice President Motorsport and GT Cars):

“Our strategy worked perfectly. Right from the start, we focused on having a car at the end of the race that was very fast in cool conditions. Patrick laid the foundations for this success with a strong double stint. Nick and Fred then brought it home. But you need the right tactic, too, and that worked perfectly. Petit Le Mans was a huge race. This victory fits perfectly with the successes that came just in time for Porsche’s 70th anniversary. If someone had written a film script for such a scenario, no one would have believed it to be real. But it worked and that’s just terrific!”

Pascal Zurlinden (Director GT Factory Motorsport):

“It was a gripping race with highs and lows. Minor errors on the racetrack cost us some time, but with perfect strategies and tyre choices we made it to the front of the field. After victories in Sebring and at Le Mans and now Petit Le Mans – the entire team simply did a perfect job, and today we extended the contract with the squad for another three years. Now we’ll prepare for next season.”

Patrick Pilet (Porsche 911 RSR #911):

“Such moments underline why we systematically work together as a unit throughout the year. In such races you’re rewarded for this. We always believed we could win. When Nick climbed into the car for the final stints, I said to him: “Do it like at the Nürburgring. Go flat out and give it all you’ve got.” That’s exactly what he did. Everything came together. I’m incredibly proud of the whole team. To score so many victories at major races in one season is simply a dream.”

Laurens Vanthoor (Porsche 911 RSR #912):

“This race actually went like the second half of the season: We had every chance to win, but we walked away empty handed. Congratulations to our teammates in the 911. It was a tremendous achievement for Patrick, Nick and Fred.”

Race results

GTLM class
1. Tandy/Pilet/Makowiecki (GB/F/F), Porsche 911 RSR, 419 laps
2. Milner/Gavin/Fässler (USA/GB/CH), Chevrolet Corvette C7.R, 419 laps
3. Krohn/Edwards/Mostert (FIN/USA/AUS), BMW M8 GTE, 419 laps
4. Sims/De Phillippi/Auberlen (GB/USA/USA), BMW M8 GTE, 419 laps
5. Briscoe/Westbrook/Dixon (AUS/GB/USA), Ford GT, 419 laps
6. Vanthoor/Bamber/Jaminet (B/NZ/F), Porsche 911 RSR, 419 laps
7. Hand/Müller/Bourdais (USA/D/F), Ford GT, 418 laps
8. Magnussen/Garcia/Fässler (DK/E/CH), Chevrolet Corvette C7.R, 417 laps
9. Vilander/Molina/Bertolini (FIN/E/I), Ferrari 488 GTE, 416 laps

GTD class
1. MacNeil/Serra/Jeannette (USA/BRA/USA), Ferrari 488 GT3, 407 laps
2. Legge/Parente/Hindman (GB/P/USA), Acura NSX GT3, 407 laps
3.Sellers/Snow/Lewis (USA/USA/USA), Lamborghini Huracan GT3, 406 laps
4. Long/Nielsen/Renauer (USA/DK/D), Porsche 911 GT3 R, 406 laps
13. Henzler/Pumpelly/Pappas (D/USA/USA), Porsche 911 GT3 R, 122 laps

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https://flatsixes.com/porsche-culture/videos-porsche-culture/glorious-noise-from-the-eighth-porsche-sound-nacht/ Glorious Noise from the Eighth Porsche Sound Nacht https://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/575064084/0/flatsixes~Glorious-Noise-from-the-Eighth-Porsche-Sound-Nacht/ https://feeds.feedblitz.com/~/575064084/0/flatsixes~Glorious-Noise-from-the-Eighth-Porsche-Sound-Nacht/#respond Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:37:37 +0000 https://flatsixes.com/?p=59719 ]]>Porsche hosts a celebration of noise. How magnificent is that? Now in its eighth year, Sound Nacht has grown from its past in a large conference hall to center stage of the Porsche arena. Just under 4,000 Porsche fans showed up to come bask in the auditory triumphs of their favorite brand. The exhibition featured…

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]]>Porsche hosts a celebration of noise. How magnificent is that? Now in its eighth year, Sound Nacht has grown from its past in a large conference hall to center stage of the Porsche arena. Just under 4,000 Porsche fans showed up to come bask in the auditory triumphs of their favorite brand. The exhibition featured thirteen cars, with sounds ranging from the authoritative bark and rush of air from the 962, to more subdued noise of 356/001. The event also featured the sonic stylings of a Panamera Sport Turismo and a team of dancers. With growth comes variety, and what might seem slightly silly in concept has only become more compelling after nearly a decade.

While the Porsche flat-six is the sound the brand is most known for, it is far from the be-all, end-all of Porsche noise. When Porsche ranked their top five sounds, just two flat-sixes made the list. Porsche's sonic repertoire isn't a one-dimensional thing, it's a broad and varied collection that would do Captain Beefheart proud. With engines from four to twelve cylinders on offer, and the booming acoustics of an arena, this edition of Sound Nacht may be the grandest yet.

We will admit though, the Panamera bit was a bit odd.

Below is a brief clip showing each car to appear at the event.

Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo

Porsche 356/001

Porsche 962

Porsche 804 Formula 1

Porsche 917

Porsche 911 RSR Turbo 2.1

Porsche 935/78

Porsche 911 GT1-98

Porsche 959 Paris-Dakar

Porsche 964 Carrera Cup

Porsche 996 GT3 Cup

Note: This car suffered an unusual issue, and began to slide backwards across the angled turntable used for the event.

Porsche 996 GT3 RSR

Porsche 919 Hybrid

Porsche 991 RSR

 

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We've been compiling some amazing Porsche models on eBay for three years now, and we've seen some pretty astonishing examples pop up now and again. This week we're focusing on Porsche's GT wonder, the 928s of the 1970s, '80s, and 90s. They're big and beautiful, and some of them are still quite affordable to purchase, if not maintain. Hopefully you've enjoyed our curated look at the Porsche market. Keep in mind, some of these Porsches could be great collection investments, while others might prove to do more financial harm than good.

INTERESTED IN HAVING YOUR PORSCHE FEATURED HERE?

Every other week, we feature 5 of our favorite Porsches on eBay. That post is sent out to our mailing list of more than 17,000 Porsche owners and fans and is seen by 10s of thousands of other readers who visit our site directly. If you're selling a Porsche on eBay and would like to see it featured here, just shoot us an email with the details and we'll be back in touch. Otherwise, feel free to check out all the other eBay listings we have on our Porsches for sale pages.

1. 1982 Porsche 928 Weissach For Sale

This first listing is an wholly anachronistic look at Porsche's GT machine. This car could not have existed outside of the 1980s, and looks like an absolute blast from the past. With a set of Gotti wheels on this golden boy, this Porsche looks ready to roll to the nearest skating rink for an all-night-skate. With just 58,000 miles on the odometer, this monster is still looking pretty fresh, and allegedly all of the required maintenance was recently completed. On paper, this looks like a nice buy.

For more pictures, pricing and information, check out the full listing on eBay.

2. 1987 Porsche 928 S4 For Sale

This is another fairly low-mile 928, this time bearing the late style bumper, which certainly updates the 928's appearance. This is an automatic-equipped car with the fairly rare factory limited slip differential. I've always been partial to the manual 928s, but the Mercedes-built auto is quite serviceable. With a large and comfortable interior, this is the kind of car that you could drive across the country for 800 mile stints in a day, should you choose to do something so foolish.

For more pictures, pricing and information, check out the full listing on eBay.

3. 1994 Porsche 928 GTS For Sale

The undisputed king of the 928s is the latest model, the GTS with a 5.4-liter four-cam V8 mega engine from 1994 and 1995. This was the last hoorah of Porsche hand-built construction, and the final model style of the 928's long life, having ended in 95. The automatic-equipped GTS examples aren't as desirable as the manually-shifted models, but they don't command the six-figure prices, either.

For more pictures, pricing and information, check out the full listing on eBay.

4. 1988 Porsche 928 S4 For Sale

This 5-liter rounded-bumper S4 is among the lowest mileage 928s on eBay right now with just 26,000 miles racked up. With that kind of low mileage, even the factory leather must look and smell like new. With original correct manhole-cover-style wheels, this car looks particularly good in red, which is all original paint to boot. This is a pretty well kept collector-grade example of what was Porsche's most expensive standard production model at the time.

For more pictures, pricing and information, check out the full listing on eBay.

5. 1982 Porsche 928 For Sale

If you thought that last example was low mile with 26,000, then you'll marvel at this older example with just 18,000 miles on the clock. An early bumper model with excellent upkeep, this is perhaps my pick of the litter today. Blue is a striking and unusual color for the 928, but it looks tremendous.

For more pictures, pricing and information, check out the full listing on eBay.

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]]>Since parting company with the 919 Hybrid, Marc Lieb, Romain Dumas, and Timo Bernhard have returned to their roots in GT racing, with each of them driving for Porsche's customer teams at this year's 24 Hours of Spa.

Recapping on nearly two decades of racing, much of which they shared as teammates, the three drivers have clearly lost none of the motivation which got them to the top step of sportscar racing.

Though battling in GT3 Rs didn't quite match the sheer speed of the 919 Hybrid which he helped develop, the thrill of the GT cars are just as appealing as the prototypes, as Bernhard elaborates:

"There's a lot more movement, obviously. But, to run Eau Rouge in a GT car, it's—it's less in speed, but it's not less in excitement compared to an LMP1 car, because the car is moving quite a lot; you're sliding, drifting a bit. It's a bit more old-style, I would say."

Though Dumas and Bernhard have continued racing full-time, Lieb made a major professional change recently. The former driver and engineer recently became Porsche's newly-appointed Head of Customer Racing. Fifteen years racing for Porsche gave Lieb the intimate understanding of the sport and the business that will help him expand the marque's already-sizable customer racing base.

(Left to right) Lieb, Dumas, and Jani pose on the podium after their victory at Le Mans in 2016.

It's a pleasure to witness these three seasoned veterans' ever-present smiles and hear them wax lyrical about their times with the marque—to see that their enthusiasm for motorsport, in all its forms, still flows out of every pore. Truly, to be become part of the Porsche family is an honor and a privilege, as these drivers demonstrate.

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Porsche Motorsport North America finally understands that fans want to see something other than the staid and German red/white/black stripe livery that they have been running all year. I think Porsche got more press for running a Pink Pig and a Rothmans livery on two of their 911 RSRs at Le Mans this year than they did for actually winning the damn race! That theory is back again with a striking throwback visual to the 911 GT1 that dominated Le Mans in 1998 with its wild Mobil 1 livery. This is perhaps one of the least repeated liveries in Porsche's history, but it looks awfully good on the current mid-engine 911 RSR.

Porsche will be running Patrick Pilet, Nick Tandy, and Frederic Makowiecki in the red-accented #911 car, while Earl Bamber, Laurens Vanthoor, and Mathieu Jaminet will be sharing the acid-green-accented #912 car. Earl Bamber is fresh off a weekend down under racing with Shane Van Gisbergen in the Red Bull Holden Racing Australia car during the Bathurst 1000k race. Porsche have not had an incredible year in IMSA this year, suffering from some pretty atrocious luck. The team have not won a race since the fourth round at Mid Ohio back in May. Here's hoping for some of that 1998 Le Mans magic for the guys at Petit this weekend.

You can watch the full 10-hour race on Fox Sports networks.

Saturday, October 13th - 10:30 AM to 12:00 PM Eastern on Fox Sports 1
Saturday, October 13th - 12:00 PM to 9:30 PM Eastern on Fox Sports 2

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]]>Later this month, just a few days before Halloween, Porsche and RM Sotheby's will be serving up some treats during the Porsche 70th Anniversary Auction in Atlanta, Georgia. With 123 lots of Porsche goodies, ranging from original dealership posters and children's cars to a low mile 924 and a full-blown 959 Dakar racer. No matter what era of the Porsche history you appreciate most, there will be something in store for you to bid on. This is the largest Porsche-only auction I've ever seen come to fruition, and it could seriously set the market in the near future. Every car here carries an incredible backstory, and any of them would be welcome additions to a Porsche nut's garage! Can you imagine any other marque that can put together this kind of collection from their back catalog?

You can bid on these cars yourself through RM's phone bidding process, or you can get yourself to Atlanta and pick up a paddle. You know you want to.

Lot 162 - 1984 Porsche 944 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $35,000 - 45,000

Porsche's 944, when it was new, was the perfect college professor car. You likely had a college professor with a slightly quirky car that nobody else in your town had. They were never top-of-the-line models, but they're usually good handling imported sports coupes. I think of Datsun 240Zs, Saab 99s, BMW 2002s, and any transaxle Porsche as being the ideal professor car. Especially in the 70s and 80s, professors made decent money, but not enough that they could jump on a new 911 or better. They are also intellectuals and could not justify dropping that kind of money on a car anyway. It's premium, but not premium enough to be a turn off.

JoAnn Stark purchased this gorgeous 944 when she was hired to her dream job in the English Department at Northwestern University. From 1984 through 1999, Ms. Stark drove the car just 10,262 miles before moving to Seattle. They retained the 944 as a fair weather driver when they came back to Illinois, and the car was professionally maintained, even while they were not in town. I've never seen a set of color-matched Cookie Cutter wheels, but they work incredibly well on this car. This car is the gold-standard of early 944s, and look for it to fetch a nice premium.

Lot 173 - 1958 Porsche 356A 1600 Super Speedster Barn Find - Pre-Auction Estimate: $125,000 - 150,000

The words "Barn" and "Find" when put together are the equivalent of printing money in today's car collecting world. The buyer isn't buying a car, they're buying a story. They're making sure their collectible car is more of a conversation piece. This Speedster's story isn't all that exciting, if I'm honest, but I'm sure it'll still fetch a premium. The car was originally imported through Max Hoffman's distributor in New York. The early history of the car is a bit foggy, but it is believed to have spent that time in Texas. It racked up 70,000 miles through 1984 when it was purchased by the current owner who intended to restore the car. Somehow, even in Texas, the 356 developed rot in the floorpans, trunk, and battery box. The owner had intended to restore the car, and stripped it of its paint before clapping his hands together and walking away for 35 years. Allegedly the 1600 Super engine does run, but the brakes are not mechanically sound enough to drive the car.

Is that story worth a premium to you? Personally, I'd rather spend that kind of cash on a Speedster with twice as many miles, and more patina in the original paint to tell its own story. But, regardless of my feelings, this will surely sell for well more than a nice example that doesn't need a full restoration.

Lot 178 - 1980 Porsche 935 Kremer K4 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $850,000 - 1,100,000

It doesn't get much more Group 5 exciting than an original Kremer K4 as-raced by Ted Field and Danny 'On-The-Gas' Ongais. While Porsche had left 935 racing to non-factory teams at the tail end of the 1970s, they exploited a few rules to create the iconic 935-78 Moby Dick. The Group 5 rules essentially only covered the bodywork between the front and rear bulkheads. In order to retain the group appropriate bodywork, they had to have the roof, rear window profile, front and rear firewalls, and doors. That's pretty much it. So the Moby Dick kicked off a series of wilder and wilder builds. Porsche wouldn't sell the Moby Dick to privateers, so they build their own. Kremer's answer to that concept was the K4. A much wilder version of their K3 that had won Le Mans overall in 1979.

The car raced with Interscope in IMSA's GTX category for a couple of years to varying success before it was sold to Vasek Polak, who stored it for several years in California. In 1997 it was restored by Gunnar Racing and returned to racing in vintage categories. Then, Ted Field's nephew, Marshall Field purchased the car and gave it a no-expense-spared update to modern standards. The chassis was stiffened with bonded-in honeycomb aluminum, a brand new twin-turbo 935 powerplant, new Penske shocks, and a Motec dash/telemetry system were installed. At that time, the car was returned to Interscope livery, and the GT1-style mirrors, and an aluminum splitter were added for aero efficiency. The current owner purchased the car in 2003.

The car has been out of commission for long enough that the buyer should definitely get the mechanicals rebuilt again, but this could be an incredible car for vintage racing. Possibly the most modern and wildly-built Kremer 935s in the world.

Lot 196 - 1985 Porsche 959 Paris-Dakar - Pre-Auction Estimate: $3,000,000 - 3,400,000

The Dakar-entered 959 is one of only three cars built in 1985. These examples were built with a naturally aspirated Carrera 3.2 engine for simplicity and longevity in the desert racing venue, plus an advanced all-wheel-drive system, a high rise suspension, and 959 body panels. Chassis no. 010015 was driven in the 1985 Paris-Dakar as #186 by René Metge and Dominique Lemoyne. Metge won the Paris-Dakar in 1981, '84, and '86. Unfortunately, while aboard this car, he was forced to retire early with an oil line failure. 1985 was not a good year for Porsche, as the other two 959s entered suffered accidents. While the car didn't actually finish the Dakar journey, it provided much-needed development for the 1986 running of the event, where Porsche placed 1-2-6 overall. Since retiring from competition, it has been shown at many vintage events, including Goodwood and The Quail, as owned by Jacky Ickx.

More Awesome Porsche Lots From RM Sotheby's

Lot 155 - Porsche 356 Speedster Junior Children's Car - Pre-Auction Estimate: $18,000 - 25,000

Lot 156 - Porsche 550 Spyder Junior Children's Car - Pre-Auction Estimate: $18,000 - 25,000

Lot 157 - Porsche 904 GTS Junior Children's Car - Pre-Auction Estimate: $20,000 - 30,000

Lot 158 - Porsche 917 Junior Children's Car - Pre-Auction Estimate: $50,000 - 60,000

Lot 161 - 1956 Porsche 356A Training Car - Pre-Auction Estimate: $100,000 - 150,000

Lot 163 - 1994 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 Turbo Look - Pre-Auction Estimate: $125,000 - 150,000

Lot 164 - 1994 Porsche 928 GTS - Pre-Auction Estimate: $90,000 - 120,000

Lot 165 - 1989 Porsche 911 Turbo Coupe - Pre-Auction Estimate: $125,000 - 175,000

Lot 166 - 1969 Porsche 911E Coupe 2.0L - Pre-Auction Estimate: $70,000 - 90,000

Lot 167 - 1997 Porsche 911 Turbo S - Pre-Auction Estimate: $300,000 - 400,000

Lot 168 -1971 Porsche 914/6 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $100,000 - 125,000

Lot 169 - 1995 Porsche 911 Cup 3.8 RSR Evo - Pre-Auction Estimate: $250,000 - 275,000

Lot 170 - 2006 Porsche 911 Carrera S Club Coupe - Pre-Auction Estimate: $120,000 - 160,000

Lot 171 -1971 Porsche 911E Targa 2.2L - Pre-Auction Estimate: $125,000 - 150,000

Lot 172 - 1988 Porsche 911 Turbo S Slant Nose Coupe - Pre-Auction Estimate: $250,000 - 300,000

Lot 174 -1965 Porsche 911 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $200,000 - 250,000

Lot 175 - 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS 2.7L Lightweight - Pre-Auction Estimate: $875,000 - 1,100,000

Lot 176 - 1977 Porsche 911 Turbo Carrera - Pre-Auction Estimate: $140,000 - 180,000

Lot 177 - 1993 Porsche 911 RS America - Pre-Auction Estimate: $150,000 - 200,000

Lot 179 - 1996 Porsche 911 Carrera RS - Pre-Auction Estimate: $500,000 - 600,000

Lot 180 - 1968 Porsche 911L Coupe - Pre-Auction Estimate: $125,000 - 150,000

Lot 181 - 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 2.8L - Pre-Auction Estimate: $2,400,000 - 2,800,000

Lot 182 - 1996 Porsche 911 Carrera 4S - Pre-Auction Estimate: $100,000 - 125,000

Lot 183 - 2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0L - Pre-Auction Estimate: $800,000 - 1,000,000

Lot 184 - 1951 Porsche 356 Split Window Cabriolet 1300 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $560,000 - 800,000

Lot 185 - 2015 Porsche 918 Spyder - Pre-Auction Estimate: $1,400,000 - 1,600,000

Lot 186 - 2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 3.8 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $175,000 - 200,000

Lot 187 - 1963 Porsche 356 B 1600 Sunroof Coupe - Pre-Auction Estimate: $90,000 - 120,000

Lot 188 - 1994 Porsche 911 Speedster - Pre-Auction Estimate: $200,000 - 250,000

Lot 189 - 1991 Porsche 911 Turbo - Pre-Auction Estimate: $225,000 - 275,000

Lot 190 - 1951 Porsche 356 Pre-A Split-Window Coupe - Pre-Auction Estimate: $600,000 - 800,000

Lot 191 - 1985 Porsche 959 Prototype - Pre-Auction Estimate: $1,300,000 - 1,600,000

Lot 192 - 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS 2.7L Touring - Pre-Auction Estimate: $650,000 - 750,000

Lot 193 - 1994 Porsche 911 Turbo S X85 Slant Nose "Flachbau" - Pre-Auction Estimate: $600,000 - 750,000

Lot 194 - 1969 Porsche 911E 2.0L Coupe - Pre-Auction Estimate: $125,000 - 150,000

Lot 195 - 2016 Porsche 911 GT3 RS - Pre-Auction Estimate: $175,000 - 225,000

Lot 197 - 1960 Porsche 356 B Coupe Super 90 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $140,000 - 160,000

Lot 198 - 1989 Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet - Pre-Auction Estimate: $225,000 - 275,000

Lot 199 - 2011 Porsche 911 GT2 RS - Pre-Auction Estimate: $700,000 - 800,000

Lot 200 - 1983 Porsche 956 Group C - Pre-Auction Estimate: $5,250,000 - 6,750,000

Lot 201 - 1970 Porsche 911S Coupe 2.2L - Pre-Auction Estimate: $180,000 - 220,000

Lot 202 - 1992 Porsche 911 Carrera RS - Pre-Auction Estimate: $600,000 - 700,000

Lot 203 - 1956 Porsche 356 A Speedster 1600 Super - Pre-Auction Estimate: $500,000 - 600,000

Lot 204 - 1970 Porsche 914/6 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $80,000 - 100,000

Lot 205 - 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS 2.7L Prototype - Pre-Auction Estimate: $1,250,000 - 1,500,000

Lot 206 - 1985 Porsche 911 Turbo Slant Nose Coupe - Pre-Auction Estimate: $250,000 - 300,000

Lot 207 - 2004 Porsche Carrera GT - Pre-Auction Estimate: $650,000 - 750,000

Lot 208 - 1968 Porsche 911 Sportomatic Coupe - Pre-Auction Estimate: $225,000 - 275,000

Lot 209 - 1994 Porsche 911 Turbo S - Pre-Auction Estimate: $775,000 - 950,000

Lot 210 - 1967 Porsche 911S 2.0L Coupe - Pre-Auction Estimate: $175,000 - 225,000

Lot 211 - 2008 Porsche 911 GT2 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $260,000 - 300,000

Lot 212 - 1958 Porsche 356A Speedster - Pre-Auction Estimate: $300,000 - 350,000

Lot 213 - 2007 Porsche 911 GT3 RS - Pre-Auction Estimate: $260,000 - 300,000

Lot 214 - 1968 Porsche 911 Soft-Window Targa - Pre-Auction Estimate: $170,000 - 190,000

Lot 215 - 1975 Porsche 911 Carrera RSR 3.0L - Pre-Auction Estimate: $2,000,000 - 2,200,000

Lot 216 - 1960 Porsche 356B Super 90 Cabriolet - Pre-Auction Estimate: $160,000 - 190,000

Lot 217 - 1996 Porsche 911 GT2 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $800,000 - 1,200,000

Lot 218 - 1994 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.6L - Pre-Auction Estimate: $150,000 - 200,000

Lot 219 - 2005 Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet - Pre-Auction Estimate: $120,000 - 140,000

Lot 220 - 2018 Porsche 911 Turbo Classic Series (993) "Project Gold" - No Estimate Provided

Lot 221 - 1980 Porsche 924 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $30,000 - 40,000

Lot 222 - 1990 Porsche 944 S2 Cabriolet - Pre-Auction Estimate: $40,000 - 60,000

Lot 223 - 1979 Porsche 928 - Pre-Auction Estimate: $60,000 - 80,000

Lot 224 - 1959 Porsche Diesel Junior 108 K Tractor - Pre-Auction Estimate: $30,000 - 40,000

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]]>Before any hearts get completely shattered, as mine was upon viewing this video, the 356 appears to be a replica. Nevertheless, the story remains the same. An inattentive van driver backs in to a space at speed, completely fails to notice the pale blue 356 Cabriolet already in the spot, and shunts the car into a canal. Given the van's speed it's likely that it would have entered the water, throttle still pinned, had the 356 not been there. If ever there was a case for back-up cameras, it's here. Independent publisher Unbound captured the video on their CCTV system.

Rob Telford, a London photographer, documented the recovery efforts.

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The replica was apparently based on a 1980 Volkswagen Beetle, and was available for sale at a London dealer at the time of the accident for 30k GBP. Note the visible damage to the 356, and the missing plastic bumpers on the van.

Tweet and Photo by @RobTelford

Recovering the car took several attempts using a roll-back tow truck. Given the state of the car, a crane may have been the more appropriate recovery vehicle. It appears that ultimately a pair of ramps and the winch from the roll-back sufficed to extract the 356 Replica from the water.

Tweet and Photo by @RobTelford

Following its recovery, the car looks slightly forlorn with a drooping headlight. So far we have not seen good photos of the rear of the car showing the point of impact. The Chesil kits are fiberglass, like most 356 replicas. While fiberglass can be quite tough, it's likely it sustained some significant damage in the impact.

Our sources have not yet confirmed, but rumor has it the van was just offered a position as kicker for the Cleveland Browns.

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